The Importance of Pacing

As a Raid Leader, part of my job is to decide what bosses we’re going to kill on any particular night. I have to draw on my personal knowledge of the encounter, estimate how much experience everyone else has, their performance, and how much time each boss and its assigned trash is going to take.

When we first started Ulduar 25 in earnest, we got about as far as Kologarn, leaving Auriaya up after a wipe or two and calling it a night. That was after easy-modeing Flame Leviathan, and going straight to XT. We skipped Razorscale, Ignis, and the Iron Council for quite a while.

Then, once we got a handle on XT, Kologarn, and Auriaya and had started working on keepers we inserted those other bosses in at the end of raids.

Then came this week.

And yesterday.

We’ve finally hit that sweet spot. Last night we dove straight through Flame Leviathan, did XT, then Kologarn, and finally Auriaya. She died at 8:15. Our raid time starts at 7, and we raid until 10. So, that was a little less than half our raid to get to the keepers.

Unfortunately for me, I hadn’t guessed in my wildest dreams that we’d be able to steamroll through the required bosses that quickly. The keepers (mostly) require a good amount of set-up (see below) before we tackle them.

Tonight's Roster, Lookit that beast!

Tonight's Roster, Lookit that beast!

plus bunny ^_^

Anyhoo, this is the set-up for all four keepers. Two we’ve killed before (Freya and Hodir), one we’re so damn close we can taste his defeat (Thorim) and another we’ve never seen on 25-man, and never beaten at all (Mimiron).

Last week I was completely floored when our guild managed to 1-shot Freya and we 2-shot Hodir. We had 6 attempts on Thorim with the last one ending in a wipe at 15% or so and the only outstanding problem was the lack of a set tank taunt order. This is now fixed, and I have every confidence we’ll see him dead tonight.

The real kicker is, we raid for three hours a night, three nights a week. It’s a relatively short raid night in a relatively short raid week. When we first started working on Ulduar I knew Yogg-Saron was a long ways away, and (after our previous failure to down Sartharion 3D before 3.2) I never thought we’d get to see Algalon.

14 bosses in 9 hours? Surely it’s not possible.

Oh, sure, there’s speed runs of all of Naxx completed in 2-3 hours, and that’s 15 bosses. But, you see, Naxx was easy. Ulduar is… well… not so much.

I wasn’t sure if we’d ever have the time and ability to blaze through these bosses and get deeper into Ulduar.

Last night, my guild showed me how very wrong I’d been.

Now, tonight we’ll kill three keepers, of this I have no doubt, and then we’ll start working on one of the most difficult fights in the entire instance, Mimiron.

I don’t think we’ll kill him tonight, and I would be surprised if we killed him tomorrow night, but if the raiders of Unemployed bring the kind of focus and skill they’ve shown thus far, I could definitely see us… what was that term the dear Panzercow used? Oh yes…

Next week, we’ll definitely manage to beat the Yoggy out of him.

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    • keltar
    • June 10th, 2009

    Hey runy thks for the good reading, hey I was wondering that soreadsheet do you import it somehow to your guildsite or is it for your use only? because i think i could use something like that for my guild

  1. Daaaaamn. Your spreadsheet fu is most impressive, Grasshopper. I think this is one of the reasons I’m glad I’m just a grunt. Not the raidleader, not an officer, not a class lead, not even the main tank (most of the time). I’m just your friendly neighborhood offtank and occasional roflcowpter.

    And I have no doubt you guys will beat the Yoggy out of Mimiron. Good luck!

    • Tigerfeet
    • June 11th, 2009

    Keltar – I’m not Runy, I’m Tigerfeet šŸ˜‰

    But, as for the spreadsheet, we use Google Docs. When you creat a spreadsheet you can share it with others (using their e-mail address if they have a google account) and they can edit too. We share this among our officers and during the day a number of us work together to set up the spreadsheet. Then, once it’s created we publish it and post a link on our raid forums signup thread. There, the guild at large can see what’s on it!

    Lewis – We didn’t get to Mimiron until 9:45 last night, only 15 minutes left in raid time. So, we gave a quick run-down of phases one and two then Yee-Haa’d our way in there. We got through Phase 1 with about 1/4 of the raid dead (lol-melee, I was one of them) and then just started bleeding people on Phase 2. But, for a quick ‘let’s pull the boss so we don’t have to do that trash again’ I think we did pretty damn good!

    • Copernicus
    • June 11th, 2009

    Most impressive!

    Our 10 man run is failing on Hodir, and we don’t know why. We do great until he gets to abotu 50%, then things just fall apart.

    Congrats on your fantastic progress!

    • Tigerfeet
    • June 11th, 2009

    Copernicus – just make sure you keep freeing the frozen NPCs, stack in starbeams as much as possible, stack next to toasty fires too, and if a healer gets the stormcloud, he’s to run into the melee (it’s an aoe crit buff)

    • Keltar
    • June 11th, 2009

    oh my!! im so sorry i just read you blogs one and hten the other the nick must have got stuck in my mind!!! im so sorry šŸ˜€
    @Copernicus: You could also try use some advanced tactics like not moving the boss from behind the coffer, not freeing the priest NPC and stacking all your dps ranged in one place it really boost your raid wide dps.

  2. Your spreadsheet makes me feel inadequate about our “Heal what you feel!” and “/flip [Titanium Seal of Dalaran]” methods of healing and tanking assignments.

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